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Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.03.18 00:39:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:Oh, you poor, deluded man. Gallente are the best ships to fly with at least 12M Sp in hybrids, perfect navigation mechanic electronics engineering leadership drones skills and that you have a lot of rapiers/hugins lachesis doing the job for you, because you're an uber high/low sec gate/station cap sucker/pvp boy
Let me correct you. Now it's better. |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
885
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Posted - 2012.03.18 00:42:00 -
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ElQuirko wrote:Tovartis Roberts wrote:sure bro once you've popped that first called target and it takes you a year to get in range of the next primary?! It's why god invented microwarpdrives... http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=15173664 - look at this. It should have been able to neut my wee brutix to oblivion. Not at all, because I got myself a warpin point with a falcon and dropped right on top of it just as it focused a cycle on said falcon. The pilot didn't even have a chance to scream. Gallente ships are brawlers. If you NEED to move, you're doing it wrong.
This made me laugh. you've got here the gallente uberness spirit and skill as example for how you should play gallente exactly. |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
885
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Posted - 2012.03.18 00:46:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Nothing wrong with Gallente. They only really suck in large-scale fleet warfare. They in fact kick some ass in small gangs and solo - and against stupid opponents (extremely common), they are in fact easily the best PvP race.
I'll retain: very small gang (2 to 5 dudes with 1 logi) and the fact that yes, even older players very often have such lazy fits even noobs couldn't come out with that without serious effort.
In wich case I permit my self to ask, why pick a vindicator for such small niche when I can do the same/better in a machariel, because of eft numbers? (note machariel but malestrom/tornado etc blahblah are better too) |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
887
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Posted - 2012.03.18 13:35:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Keen Fallsword wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Keen Fallsword wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Nothing wrong with Gallente. They only really suck in large-scale fleet warfare. They in fact kick some ass in small gangs and solo - and against stupid opponents (extremely common), they are in fact easily the best PvP race. Hahahaha !! The best ?? Lol. The best in what ?? Please.... Hahah stop it lol When your opponent is too dumb to know what blasters can do and doesn't avoid it, yeah, the ship with blasters simply cannot lose. You must be one of those idiots who flies into them. Yeah sure .... Come closer to my neuting - armor cane.. No cap ? Oh sorry. Winmatar is cap free weapon. And they are awesome. Gallente have nothing special. Dps so say ? Not really... So you seriously think a neuting Cane is going to stop a Brutix from unloading hell before capping out? There's this thing we call cap boosters - and they're hardly needed when you're pushing 1100+ DPS easily. Do you seriously think a cane can cap out a brutix in the 4-5 cycles its going to get? If that brutix lands on top of the cane on warpin, it isn't going to lose.
To push 1100+Dps from a brutix you need all lows of dmg mods witch means 0 tank, you should also know the cookie cutter shield cane uses 2 neuts +6guns and spits 600dps with shortest range ammo at 25km witch is by far the double of your brutix optimal+falloff AND almost double EHP in that configuration.
If you loose to that brutix 1-1 you're an idiot, plain simple.
Now if we start adding to this a fellah with a rapier or double web loki your brutix might have a chance
And erm add minmatar e-war cause gallente don't have decent e-war to achieve their purpose once again.
How many Gallente armor fleet Fatal ascension uses at this very right moment ?
How many Gallente armor gangs do you guys use on a regular base for local/roaming pvp?
I know the answer just by looking at your KB's: None
So sorry if I have some trouble to admit you might indeed be right about gallente. |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
887
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Posted - 2012.03.18 13:55:00 -
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Roime wrote:Please post the Cane that does 600dps past 5km? Or a shield Cane that has more EHP than the Brutix I posted?
If I do this I have to kill you.
Also: if you learn to fit/fly a cane you will no longer be an easy killmail, so don't use EFT/PYFA and don't fit/use canes.
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Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
887
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Posted - 2012.03.19 12:00:00 -
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Roime wrote:Tanya Powers wrote:Roime wrote:Please post the Cane that does 600dps past 5km? Or a shield Cane that has more EHP than the Brutix I posted? If I do this I have to kill you. Also: if you learn to fit/fly a cane you will no longer be an easy killmail, so don't use EFT/PYFA and don't fit/use canes.  ok, hot air is as good as any answer. The conventional shield nano Cane does about 300dps @ 25km when pushed, which is a whopping 50dps more than a blaster Brutix at same range. But enough of this, it's quite testimonial that Brutix is the only tier 1 BC ever compared to tier 2s, probably because it's by far the best tier 1 BC in game, they all have issues that hopefully will be fixed with the upcoming tiericide. Gallente racial counterpart to Hurricane is the Myrmidon. The DPS from a Cane @ 25km can be tanked with a single repper of a dual repper, and it can do equal dps out to 60km. Brutix is far from a perfect solo-BC, Myrm does that a lot better, and neither of them is the best option for larger fleets- that is the downside of Gallente, at least currently there are no "line ships". Brutix fills the DPS role in a small gang, and does that with style- bringing in more dps than many battleships. tl,dr; Cane is a great swiss-army tier 2 BC that has super speed. Brutix is one the weak tier 1 BCs, with a very distinct role. As per how the tier system is designed now, the Cane should win the Brutix. Obviously comparing these two ships is mostly irrelevant to the discussion about Gallente as a race.
I will come on my thought about Gallente after this tiericide long due annihilation and when ships for a role will have the tools to achieve what they're supposed to without "tricks" fails stuf and whatsoever.
OC I know how good a Brutix can be, unfortunately it's just in very specific situations but once those requirements are set hell yeah rocks in the house, it's all the problem I have with gallente: they can be, under very specific situations.
Now, for people thinking Eve is about gate camping, station camping, ganking mackinaws/hulks, gank haulers at gates, 1-1 with boost alt+naut jam + neut rep then we clearly don't play the same game and we will never agree.
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